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Exploring the creative collaboration that led to the album ‘That Wasn’t A Dream’ : NPR


On That Wasn’t A Dream, bassist Pino Palladino and guitarist/producer Blake Mills staff up for an additional set of genre-defying instrumentals.

Justin Daashuur Hopkins


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Justin Daashuur Hopkins

Bassist Pino Palladino and producer Blake Mills have spent a lot of their careers rooted in radio-friendly standard types — working with large names in rock, pop and R&B. However after they play collectively, their music challenges these classes.

This week, they launched their second set of genre-defying tracks collectively, That Wasn’t A Dream.

Palladino’s resume is nothing wanting outstanding. The 67-year-old Welsh bass participant has left an indelible mark on standard music over the previous 4 a long time, recording with Don Henley, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Aldele and Erykah Badu. He was part of the John Mayer Trio and had stints touring with D’Angelo, The Who and 9 Inch Nails.

“I am identified for taking part in on all kinds of various information and types of music.” Palladino mentioned. “I believe when me and Blake get collectively, it turns into one thing distinctive — which is a phrase that is in all probability overused to explain issues. However I believe I would like to stay with that phrase for this.”

Practically 30 years Palladino’s junior, Mills’ star has been rising since getting his begin as a guitarist and vocalist with the Southern California rock group Simon Dawes (now generally known as Dawes). Together with a collection of acclaimed solo information, he is additionally labored as a producer for artists resembling Fiona Apple, Conor Oberst and Alabama Shakes.

Forging a musical partnership

The duo rapidly shaped a musical kinship in 2016, when Mills introduced Palladino and drummer Chris Dave into the studio for a session with John Legend. Palladino invited Mills to spend a day engaged on a few of his songs in progress.

“That day was two years of engaged on his music,” mentioned Mills. The collaboration led to the duo’s 2021 album, Notes With Attachments.

Whereas Palladino is well-known in lots of circles of standard music, he scoffs on the concept of making an attempt to categorize his work with Mills.

“I do not know the place you’d put it genre-wise and I do not significantly wish to,” he defined.

Their compositions blur traces between construction and improvisation and likewise the hierarchy of a track. “Taka” is pushed by Palladino’s swirling, but hyper-focused bassline.

“I got here up with that bassline and that melodic concept just about vibing by myself,” Palladino mentioned of the monitor. “I really like African music — West African music particularly. And that was the inspiration from listening to a variety of that music and form of internalizing it.”

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The collaborative course of 

The inventive course of is actually collaborative, each males say — one among them will introduce a bit of a track in progress after which ask the opposite for concepts.

Palladino factors to “Contour,” the opening monitor from their new album, for instance. He initially wrote the primary a part of the track on a Spanish, nylon-string guitar.

“I did not know the place to go subsequent on it to finish the piece,” Palladino mentioned. “Blake, he had one thing instantly — like a chord change and a improvement of the melody.”

When figuring out components and track concepts, the duo tends to work with out different musicians. Mills notes that the absence of a drummer is not problematic when he is with Palladino.

“There’s nonetheless such a way of rhythm,” Mills mentioned. “It looks like there’s an imaginary ensemble taking part in with us, and I simply form of lose myself and overlook that I am simply taking part in with one different individual and go into this trance of rhythm.”

Commissioning a brand new instrument in Mills’ sonic ‘vocabulary’

Whereas making the album, Mills was in search of a approach to maintain notes on a guitar. He’d used a tool known as an EBow, however was pissed off by its limitations. Ultimately, he found the work of guitar maker Duncan Worth, who was experimenting with creating uncommon six-stringed devices with no frets.

The result’s what Mills has dubbed the “fretless baritone sustainer guitar.”

“Since I’ve had it, I’ve used it on every thing,” Mills mentioned. “On each report I’ve produced, I’ve ended up selecting it up and utilizing it indirectly.”

Whereas Mills says the instrument’s sound is now a part of his musical “vernacular or vocabulary,” he is not precisely dedicated to the wordy identify he is given it.

“Till we provide you with one thing that can match on a lapel pin, I believe we’re making an attempt to maintain it nonetheless in a prototype part.”

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